Philippine Living — Common Sense

Here’s an interesting comment I just received.  It shares so much useful information about living in the Philippines I just felt I had to highlight it and give a little of my own perspective, rather than letting it die a slow death in the comments section.

Good Morning To All,
First, let me say I certainly enjoy the information yourself and your readers share on this site. I have visited a number of expat sites and yours along with the fellow from Davao get most of my attention.

Well thanks for the kind words.  I really don’t care all that much about “being liked”, but I do live for indications that I provide something of value at times when people need it.

Just so the casual reader knows a bit about “where I am at”, I never started this blog to “make money online” or for any hidden purpose other than documenting my journey.

Actually, blogging to make money is likely the WORST possible way to get started online … you can read a lot more about legitimate ways to make money on one of my more appropriate web properties, where I try to help people Empower Their Retirement.

If by “the guy from Davao” you are referring to my good friend Mindanao Bob, then you are looking in the right places.  Bob has been living in the Philippines for more than 10 years now, and unlike many of us in the Philippine blogger’s niche, he is earning his living from online business … more than those of us living in the Philippines on pensions can say.

I am a 68-year-old American married to a wonderful Filipina for 11 years now and we are blessed with an absolutely amazing 3-year-old son.

We are planning to retire within the next year and relocate to the Philippines.

We have visited often for extended periods and I truly hope we are prepared for the huge adjustments we will face in our new home.

We have deviated from some of the advice offered here and I would like to point out our reasons for doing so.

I point these out not to be argumentative but to simply offer a different perspective.

Well not to give away your points, I’ll say I don’t find your views very contrary to mine at all.  But dissenting views are always more than welcome here, as long as people can leave out the politics Winking smile.  Seems we are very close in a lot of ways… very close to the same age and you have been married exactly the same amount of time that my wonderful Philippine/American wife, the Unofficial Cook and I have been.

Live in the Philippines - Farming

Find a need and Fill It.

First, we have chosen to locate near Butuan City where my wife was born and raised. The reasons for that choice are many and I will cite a few.

My in-law family there has welcomed me and has been a huge help to me in my acclamation to the Philippines.  They have in no way been a burden, in fact just the opposite, they have been quite accommodating and helpful.  I have not had a problem with “borrowing relatives”, again just the opposite. My wife’s family has always been there to take care of certain business matters that we cannot handle being here in the U.S.  I have read a number of comments advising against living close to family, however, I am close to my family here and look forward to being close to my family there.  The close family ties and inter-relationships are one of the things that has always endeared me to the Philippines.

This certainly mirrors much of my experience.  In fact, we lost Mita’s dad a couple months ago and there is now a real void in my life.  I can’t count how many times I called upon “daddy” to help with this or that, or to bounce ideas off of to help keep me grounded.

I find it appalling how many foreigners are planning to “marry into” the Philippines yet still have no relationship, or even a hostile relationship[p with their soon-to-be new family.

In my view, if you have a poor relationship with your wife’s family, you’d be much better off just staying in the USA or wherever else “home” is now.

Second, After years of research and soul-searching, we decided to purchase a home instead of renting. We did so because, I like you, believe that one can no longer depend on past retirement ideas and beliefs. I too think that one should have a plan to earn a living independent of social security and conventional retirement vehicles.

The home we purchased is outside the city itself and is situated on 8 hectares. We plan to raise hogs and chickens as well as farm the already existing fruit trees and vegetables.

I’m with you all the way on that.  In fact, I’m green-eyed because my wife and I will likely never own 8 hectares of land.  But we do own three small farming plots in Zambales. north of Manila and they are all in production now, and we hope to increase their output significantly;y in coming years.

I often recommend to people searching for business ideas in the Philippines that they look very hard into agriculture.  usually this idea falls on deaf ears, because somehow the US attitude has seemed to shift to the idea that getting your hands dirty is somehow a bad thing.

But this is a hungry country and in many cases the opportunity for improving land productivity is huge. I have a real-world, well-researched article on living in the Philippines by raising chickens, (thanks, Jacob) and believe me, there are similar opportunities for pork and beef raising as well.

Done smartly, it would be hard to imagine an agricultural venture that won’t pay here in the Philippines.

We are both familiar with this type of business and hope we can utilize our skills there to provide income.

We have enough retirement income to live on and we paid cash for our home, so worse case we can simply search for a new means of earning an income. We DID NOT purchase our home “sight unseen” and have owned it for about four years now while hiring someone to handle the fruit and vegetable operation.  This has worked quite well for us and we think we will be able to continue and improve the existing operation.

These are the reasons we chose to go against what seems to be the prevailing wisdom. As I mention above we are prepared to shift gears in the event the need arises. I know we will face unforeseen challenges so the best I can do is be both mentally and financially prepared. I would welcome any comments and will certainly appreciate any critique or advice on my plans.

Your site offers a wealth of knowledge and insight about expat life in the Philippines I look forward  with great  anticipation to being a part of that life.

I will conclude by thanking you for providing this opportunity to allow me add my 2 cents to the ongoing discussion.

Mike

Mike, you’ll get no argument from me on any of your plan.  I think you have your feet solidly on the ground and have every chance of success.

Rather than you thinking me for the opportunity, it is I how must offer sincere thanks for such a valuable contribution.

Surely there will be some comments to this post?  Thanks, Mike.  Comments on Mike’s plans for how to live in the Philippines?

Comments

  1. Mike Henebry says:

    We have had about the same experience as the Mike who just posted. My wife and I are retired and in our 60s. We just finished building a $20K US addition to our nephew Glenn’s house. We built the second story of the house, and have a huge master bedroom with attached bath (hot water shower), guest bedroom, living room and covered front and back porches. The house is in the several-hectare family compund in Libmanan, Cam Sur, in which my wife’s sister also has a house.

    We have had no problems with family borrowing from their “rich” kano relatives, since most of our seven nephews and nieces are professionals such as teachers, nurses, attorneys and policemen; they are always doing things for us. We have cows, ducks, geese, chickens and turkeys in the family compound a well as a vegetable garden. So far, life seems fairly good in living very close to my wife’s relatives in her hometown. It is good to know that such situtations are working out well for others as well.

    • Thanks, Mike. I know I am glad to hear your story too. And something about CamSur that many don’t realize. It’s fixed to become an important tourism and recreation center, yet it’s on Luzon island, just like Manila … don’t ave to cross the seas or squeeze into a tiny, small capacity airport as is the case with so many Philippine tourist attractions. Give my regards to ElRay.

      Your plan sounds smart to me, Godspeed.

      • Illini Mike says:

        Right you are Philly! I have read that Cam Sur has more tourists than ANY other part of Phil’s, including Manila. We have been to the world-known Cam Sur Watersports Complex, the Caramoan Penninsula and swimming with the whale sharks (butanding) in Donsol. We probably have more tourist precisely because Philippinos can access our region from Manila. We have very few Kano or Western tourists, with the exception of Donsol.

  2. Really enjoy reading on your site. It has answered many of my questions more thoroughly than many of the other sites I visit. I especially like your cost of living series and resources. I did however have trouble connecting to a link you provided titled “Empower Their Retirement”. I too am retired U.S. military and after working another 20 years here, have launched our plans to liquidate and finally retire to the RP. The decision to now retire couldn’t come soon enough as we made sure our new home was constructed prior to re-locating. We delayed our decision until we were able to finish the construction on our new home so we will not have a house payment and only living expenses once we settle (Only in the Philippines can you take 6 years to build a home without someone complaining to the local code enforcement office.) I’m still a handful of years away from SS retirement age and until that time, we look to put our accumulated savings to work for us. We will be located in the Visaya’s and look forward to many years of living close to her family and a more relaxed lifestyle. I partially caught on to the idea of exploring the idea of agriculture, and maybe even ranching, if we can accommodate ourselves with finding enough rural property. Ever seen a Filipino Cowboy? Again, enjoyed.

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