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	<title>Comments on: Saving Energy for Practical People &#8212; Part 2</title>
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		<title>By: Arto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 01:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great stuff Dave! I&#039;ve been pondering and researching this stuff on(b4 the U.S. housing implosion) and off(after said disaster, and the deathly blow to moving to the RP) for a few years now. 
Direct current solar refigerators seem to be a good answer. 
Also, I&#039;ve seen a small solar panel have a surprisingly big effect on a Hong Kong electric bill.
and Also, I think having the foundation and walls in shade can make a good contribution to some cooling.
Finally, in the articles, yes, heat moves to cooler spots. But, as you know, convection and air moving from high pressure(warmer air in a semi-contained space) to low pressure will move heat the fastest sometimes. :)
The real finally, I live in HK and a friend of mine called a Shen Zhen(above HK) solar panel manufacturer and had them send 2 solar panels(pvc) without the containment  box for a third to half of retail price(maybe less, I don&#039;t remember exactly). If somebody  knows somebody in HK... that could be a real nice idea.
Exciting stuff, Arto</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great stuff Dave! I&#8217;ve been pondering and researching this stuff on(b4 the U.S. housing implosion) and off(after said disaster, and the deathly blow to moving to the RP) for a few years now.<br />
Direct current solar refigerators seem to be a good answer.<br />
Also, I&#8217;ve seen a small solar panel have a surprisingly big effect on a Hong Kong electric bill.<br />
and Also, I think having the foundation and walls in shade can make a good contribution to some cooling.<br />
Finally, in the articles, yes, heat moves to cooler spots. But, as you know, convection and air moving from high pressure(warmer air in a semi-contained space) to low pressure will move heat the fastest sometimes. <img src='http://philfaqs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
The real finally, I live in HK and a friend of mine called a Shen Zhen(above HK) solar panel manufacturer and had them send 2 solar panels(pvc) without the containment  box for a third to half of retail price(maybe less, I don&#8217;t remember exactly). If somebody  knows somebody in HK&#8230; that could be a real nice idea.<br />
Exciting stuff, Arto</p>
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		<title>By: Philly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 08:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ellen: Thanks for the report, Ellen.  Indeed it&#039;s always easier to write about these things when there are others around who have proven to themselves that there are alternatives.

I know that if there was apractical way to do so I&#039;d get an Airstream trailer like I spent many happy days in and bring it here to the Philippines ... wouldn&#039;t travel much I&#039;d just live in it ... the level of comfort I could attain there for much less energy than I expend now would be amazing ... and I like the idea of a tight environment with a place for everything and everything in its place.  Even though our present house is small by American standards my wife and I tend to rattle around in it ... the third bedroom is stacked up with stuff in just 20-odd months of living here .. I&#039;m responsible for most of the junk but I really can&#039;t say how it got there ... too bad having a maid didn&#039;t work out, when she was living in the thrid bedroom it stayed clean ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ellen: Thanks for the report, Ellen.  Indeed it&#8217;s always easier to write about these things when there are others around who have proven to themselves that there are alternatives.</p>
<p>I know that if there was apractical way to do so I&#8217;d get an Airstream trailer like I spent many happy days in and bring it here to the Philippines &#8230; wouldn&#8217;t travel much I&#8217;d just live in it &#8230; the level of comfort I could attain there for much less energy than I expend now would be amazing &#8230; and I like the idea of a tight environment with a place for everything and everything in its place.  Even though our present house is small by American standards my wife and I tend to rattle around in it &#8230; the third bedroom is stacked up with stuff in just 20-odd months of living here .. I&#8217;m responsible for most of the junk but I really can&#8217;t say how it got there &#8230; too bad having a maid didn&#8217;t work out, when she was living in the thrid bedroom it stayed clean <img src='http://philfaqs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ellen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Philly: Good to know that the solar powered ref uprights are also available in BC, Canada. It will be easy to send over through the Balikbayan transport system. Thanks. In the boat, we use the Engel Fridge/Freezer which consumes 0.7-2.5 Amps only. By the time we hit San Diego, we knew our regular marine fridge from Vancouver was just consuming too much power and draining our batteries. We ordered Engel through the internet and we were very happy with it ever since, running 24/7 and no maintenance at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Philly: Good to know that the solar powered ref uprights are also available in BC, Canada. It will be easy to send over through the Balikbayan transport system. Thanks. In the boat, we use the Engel Fridge/Freezer which consumes 0.7-2.5 Amps only. By the time we hit San Diego, we knew our regular marine fridge from Vancouver was just consuming too much power and draining our batteries. We ordered Engel through the internet and we were very happy with it ever since, running 24/7 and no maintenance at all.</p>
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